Great book by Clarissa Pinkola (if I remember correctly) who give great instict honing advice through myth. She gives a great psycological analysis for all women looking to find LA LOBA, the Wolf-woman, the wolf-woman within.
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Fri, June 10, 2005 - 12:50 PMyeah...read it several years ago....great book! -
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Fri, June 10, 2005 - 5:04 PMI read it in the 90's and at the time I was going through a deep depression ( bad love affair ) teh book helped alot. It's a great book and gives you alot of things to think about. I've never heare of anything else written by her, has any one? -
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Sun, June 12, 2005 - 8:06 PMshe has some other great books... mostly shorter and I've given as gifts...
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Mon, June 20, 2005 - 9:03 AMby Estes, Clarissa Pinkola, Ph.D.
The Faithful Gardener: A Wise Tale about That Which Can Never Die
Gift of Story
The Creative Fire
Warming the Stone Child
How to Love a Woman
Intuition and the Mystical Life
The Beginner's Guide to Dream Interpretation
Warming the Stone Child: Myths and Stories about Abandonment and Unmothered Children
The Gift of Story: Ba Wise Tale of What is Enough
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Mon, June 20, 2005 - 10:05 AMGreat list! I don't know where to start, I guess which ever I find first will be best! I also want to re-read Women who run with Wolves. This group can get reasl interesting if we all get busy reading and discussing!
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Wed, June 22, 2005 - 12:03 PMI'm re-reading this book for the umpteenth time right now. I'm in a serious soul-searching phase right now, and also I keep encountering hostility towards women, so it's a really good time to hear what this book has to say.
I've used the images that the tales evoke to guide me sometimes e.g. if I'm hyper and overly outwards-focused, I may remember the red shoes image.
Right now I'm reading Sealskin/Soulskin again because a friend is reading it and writing a paper on it. Of course it is perfect info for me - the way that happens! Yes I think it's really hard for me but for many many women to stay with themselves - keep in their body/skin/spirit. Sometimes I find that when I am in it - like today I'm really sad and in pain and staying with that - I get responses that tell me people think that's a provocation. Like how dare you not be perky and focused on me.
Really would love to hear other women's experiences of the book and then of how it fits in with their life experiences!
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Re: Anyone ever READ Women Who Run With Wolves?
Mon, June 13, 2005 - 1:26 AMShe is an extraordinary story teller, and many of her works are audio instead of written. Stop by your local library to check her out!
I just finished reading The Faithful Gardener, a very tiny book about family, faith, and our connection to the earth. It packs a powerful punch for such a little book!
I am currently trying to read the extraordinary list of books that Clarissa Pinkola Estes recommends in the back of Women Who Run With the Wolves. What an adventure!
Bright blessings,
Bonnie
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Fri, October 6, 2006 - 1:57 AMI really thought this was such a great comment you made ' i was going through a deep depression(bad love affair)!! such an honest statement that i bet you didnt even realise the connection you made saying it.
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Re: Anyone ever READ Women Who Run With Wolves?
Mon, June 13, 2005 - 2:17 AMYes, it is by Clarissa Pinkola Estes.
I resisted reading it for a long time. But in some weird circumstances I just got a copy of it and I am reading it - at the same time than I am reading 2 other books. I am also reading the chapters out of order, in a more intuitive way.
I mostly do like it but, probably because I had been concidering myself some version of "wolf-woman" way before the book came out, it does not always resonate quite right for me.
I think it is one of those books you have to read at the right time in your life...you have to be open to it.
All this said, I recommend it.
Here is a short passage from the intro(p.5): "It was a time when parents who abused their children were simply called "strict", when the spiritual lacerations of profoundly exploited women were refered to as "nervous breakdowns", when girls and women who were tightly girdled, tightly reined, and tightly muzzled were called "nice", and those other females who managed to slip the collar for a moment or two of life were branded "bad. "
And I would suggest that we all try to stay away from being "nice" and stick to being kind, just, fair, vibrant, smart, playful, giving, strong, etc..
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Mon, June 13, 2005 - 10:32 AMYeah, took me a couple of years to digest, but I got all the way through it a while back.
I've been thinking ever since about what a fabulous tool it would be for a seminar that I'd like to give at battered women's shelters on self-empowerment and re-learning self-value. -
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Fri, June 17, 2005 - 2:05 PMI have found that it is more of a reference book than a book I can only read once. I first stumbled across it when I was 19 (thanks be to whatever it was that lined that up for me!). I've found that whenver I'm in a particularly trying circumstance, I flip through it and usually find something pertinent. As I gather more experiences, I'm also finding that the same words carry different aspects of the same basic truths; nuances, hints, nudges that I hadn't noticed before. If you own a copy but haven't picked it up in ages, dust it off! You'll be glad you did...
*another* book I absolutely LOVE is called "God Made the Rivers to Flow". It isn't exactly similar; it's a collection of spiritual verse from a very wide slice of religious texts...they are meant to be used as affirmations during meditating, the idea being that if you distract yourself with these verses, it's easier to silence your mind than if you berate yourself for failing to silence your mind. It's still tricky, but rather useful. Just a thought. =)
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Re: Anyone ever READ Women Who Run With Wolves?
Fri, June 17, 2005 - 8:47 PMI read this once a long time ago, have it sitting on my shelf looking at me as I write this. I liked how she told stories. The wolf is my totem animal(one of them). I always found this strange, because I am not much of a dog person. But I do see correlations to my own personality and how wolf women behave.
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Fri, June 17, 2005 - 8:57 PMMy totem is the red-tailed hawk....but my clan is Wolf
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Sat, June 18, 2005 - 3:08 PMActually, this book was required reading for my shaman's wild women class =)
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Wed, June 22, 2005 - 12:27 PMI also recommend Carolyn McVickar Edwards for her retelling of stories in a woman's point-of-view
Storyteller's Goddess
Sun Stories
etc...
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 10:33 PMIt's one to read and reread... although I find Pinkola-Estes occasionally a bit pedantic, ultimately her gentle and profound wisdom just makes me feel cradled, comforted.. sometimes even a bit reborn.. very thankful for her words. -
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Thu, July 7, 2005 - 7:03 AMLeFey.........so nice to see you................wolf clan ? , most excellent.
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Fri, December 16, 2005 - 11:35 PMYes I have been reading it for some time now. So poweful and healing and I am not even 1/2 way through. In fact I have just about read the first 1/4 twice. Speaks to me. Im glad to of run across this tribe. One of four of my friends, the only one i have met soley here on tribe has it in her "tribes" section and i got excited.
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Sat, December 24, 2005 - 9:08 PMNew here. Hello!
I have heard about this book and plan to get my hands on a copy ASAP. It sounds like just the kind of book that I could use at this time of change in my life. Thank you, everyone, for the review of this one and the mention of other recommended reading materials.
-Melo
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Re: Living Women Who Run with the Wolves
Mon, December 26, 2005 - 7:50 AMThis was one of those books that I felt was already written inside of me and someone was writing the mysteries of my woman psyche down on pages. Needless to say, one of my copies (I give them away to women) says, ALisa's bible, please return. I have listened to all of her tapes as well and find that her writing, simply put, moves my soul to greater places. But more than that, I am living the archetypes out and whether it was Women Who Run with the Wolves or the life that was already instinctually within me as a woman before I read this, my very work in the world of Priestess Path Apprenticeship but more directly, Women in Power; Initiating Ourselves to the Predator Within, an international program, definitely has been fueled and fed for women by the understandings that Clarissa Pinkola Estes imparts. I am a women's empowerment trainer/magic person/ ceremonialist who makes worlds for women to enter that give her a chance in a ritual setting to safely confront and rise above challenges that have kept her down. I only facilitate Women in Power three times a year because of my other busy schedule but it is always full. It touches upon some very interesting issues about healthy predator/prey instincts and that which we have been hurt by with unhealthy perpetrator/ victim experiences. I cannot even begin to explain here how amazing it all ends up being when we as women begin to own the healthy predator energy. The premise is that some of us vowed (of course) never to be like the perpetrators who hurt us but in doing so forsook the power that we sometimes need in our life to be strong and powerful ourselves in healthy ways leaving us with a more prey energy (think bunny ~ soft, loveable, eating grass). Prey energy actually has its own amazing power and gives away to life often so that we may live. But the ability for us to explore the "other" predatory nature in us is totally revolutionary in this context. It has been an honor to develop this with two other co-founders and I am sure Women Who Run with the Wolves influenced my thinking over these many years. All for now. And since I am a Shadow Work facilitator, yes, sometimes with concepts like these, it leaves one with big question marks and confusion. Huh? Still there is gold there in that~ keep digging. I am here now and again and will check back. -
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Fri, November 10, 2006 - 12:33 AMI am so glad to see some dialogue on this in this tribe.... ALisa wrote she felt it one of those bookes already inside her, same with me... I lOVED the stories to begin with.... takes my soul places too... I've always been fascinated by metaphor and allegory and so this hit those spots, but the messages of empowerment and reclaiming one's "skin" and other wholeness metaphors really put it on one of my top... I think some of Clarissa's dissection a bit dry, but moving past that... I was espcially propelled in learning that the same story exists in many cultures with different names... that not only really cool, but for me heightened the lessons of the story.... and in a freeing way.... that we are more common, even in our struggles... and the path is connecting to the wholeness of core and self... in believing in one basic intstinctual truths and those truths when we step into ownership of them only magnify our beauty... and letting go of them we wither..... yes, Sealskin / Soulskin one of my favorite as well..... The imagery too......
I do, even today, recommend it to my clients - (psychotherapist) as it crystalizes the message this messages of self and woman in her glorious power and that power is a gentle connection that honors and feeds the soul self and from that reaching out to feed and service to others.... my gatherings.... that it's okay to believe in ourselves as glorious glowing beauty in movement and step into that.... and by doing so, letting go and running free... in soul connection.... okay, my gathering again out of it and others... hope I am not repeating...
As a writer too, I connected in with both the healing power of the messages, but the process of creating story with universe in the unfolding empowerment and expression of self... I presented a workshop on creating stories to heal and empower where the process more importatn than the story.... but then sharing of story and that..... that was both delicious... and fun.... well attended.... yeah, like to hold that workshop again....
thanks for letting me share...
I'd like to hear more stories from those on the list on how your story and archetypes unfold.... please share..
blessings,
marye "spiritDancer"
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Wed, December 28, 2005 - 10:26 AMI refer to the book as "My Bible" because I am constantly referring to it in times of need, growth, stagnation, turmoil... practically any circumstance. I was never good at seeing the message in fables/metaphoric tales, but Clarissa's interpretations speak to an inner me that I couldn't understand before. WWRWTWs has taught me not only to understand my powers within, but to use them.
I always knew I had a hidden energy/power, a special (mystic?) understanding of life and the universe. Though it appeared often by it's own will, I could never grasp it to see what/where/how it was. This book has identified this elusive being within myself and opened a whole new level of life understanding for me, and for friends that I've given it to, and for their friends that they passed it on to. One friend has half the women in her workplace reading it and raving about it, discussing it over lunch and coffee breaks!
I'm quite happy to have found this list/group!
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 3:49 PMHahaha -- I am the friend Darly was referring too, and she is one of my bestest friends =) And yes, I have been sharing this book with 4 other women at work, and all have found it very interesting. It is one of the most important books for my own spiritual development I have ever read, and for reconnecting with our deep female spirituality and intuition (magic?). I can never thank Darly enough for telling me about it. -
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Wed, August 30, 2006 - 3:31 AMI've read the book through once & am now studying with pencil in hand underlining pertinent passages. It's my bible also, i refer to it whenever i need help, guidance & understanding about my feelings, intuition & spirituality.
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Wed, August 30, 2006 - 11:36 AMI do the same. I frequently quote it, and I use some of the fairy tales in my writing workshops--Bluebeard is a favorite.
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Fri, September 1, 2006 - 9:49 PMI have read it, and keep reading it. It is timeless.
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Mon, October 23, 2006 - 9:38 AMYes I own a copy of it and have given a copy of it to my niece when she graduated from high school. I think is is a book that all women should be familiar with in one fashion or another. I plan on telling stories from it to my daughter when she gets a little older when the shoe fits as it fits. My favorite story from the book at this time is the one about Vasalisa and Baba Yaga.
Mary
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Mon, October 23, 2006 - 1:24 PMA very special friend gave me her copy to read... it has been my favorite book ever. There are many great books... but this one always speaks to me, my heart, when I have forgotten... and once I pick it up again, it brings me great medicine. This book will get you through any trying time. It has great power! -
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Sun, October 29, 2006 - 4:13 AMShe created a power point. A book that binds women of all ages and cultures together. It touches an instictual place with in us and I love this site because it offers a connection point to the others across the earth who carry the soul of her words.
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Fri, December 29, 2006 - 8:30 AMget it on audio tape, she narrates it and has a great speaking voice; I keep it in the car for long drives. Anam Cara
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Mon, January 15, 2007 - 10:52 AMAuthor = Clarissa Pinkola Estes, PhD.
Love how one can see how myths have MUTATED and now provide strange twists of information that have been lost with the retelling. She attempts to reconstruct many myths to their most original state in order to reveal the "honing advice" as well as to see how we are misinformed. She stays tight and to the point on retelling the myths. No bashing, no social cry of injustice.
While I am one for making cries/screams/shouts for social injustice I love how she keeps the work scholoarly, yet accessible, and informative without a seemingly aggressive opinion. Her focus and balance make the work transformational with out all the hype and assertion. It stands on it's own merit. I love this display of intellect and passion!
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Tue, January 30, 2007 - 5:52 PMAnother fabulous book which I read about 14 years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter. Clarrisa Pinkola Estes is not only an incredible writer but an incredible speaker. I heard her once read her stories and it was quite memorable and moving. All women who run with wolves should read this book. -
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Wed, January 31, 2007 - 4:03 AMWell after reading this whole thread I was happy to discover that I could order this book at a reasonable price and in english from a local shop ! Can't wait to read it !
A european woman who runs with wolves
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Fri, June 29, 2007 - 12:36 PMMy favorite chapter is "When the Heart is a Lonely Hunter" with Skeleton Woman and all. So beautiful! -
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Fri, June 29, 2007 - 1:11 PMSeveral times, love it. The chapter I often reread just by itselve, La Mariposa. I hope to once in my life make it to the ritual. -
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 9:01 PMI als consider it my Bible. I come back to it time and time again. Mostly now I simply pick it up and begin to read. I always seen to find what I'm looking for even if I didn't know what that was. So comforting, my favorite "The Red Shoes." The story of my now defunct marriage! Life just begins when the shoes are cut off. -
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Mon, July 9, 2007 - 7:36 AMShe also has a tape, well in those days! it was a tape, The Faithfull Gardener, very nice and she has a very nice comforting voice.
I am going to check on Amazon if it comes on CD.
I would also hereby, like to thank Vera Grey for giving this book and tape to me years ago.
Thank you Vera you have moved out of my life, but I still think of you everyday with gratitude and love.
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Fri, July 27, 2007 - 6:59 PMI first read that book 13 or 14 years ago when it first came out and it became my bible literally and helped me survive emotionally and spiritually through one of the worst times of my life when I almost lost my life. Sometimes I've come across it in my bookcase and I hold it between my palms and ask"Show me what I need to know". Then the story is revealed. The fun part is interpreting it as a metaphor for your life at that moment. Play and play some more! -
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Sat, July 28, 2007 - 10:19 AMI'ts so funny I do the same thing..... and pretty amazing here others say do this too... picking it up every so often and asking, what do I need today..... It's like a hike in nature..... fills me and I communicate and connect with something new each time... ... i like what you said about the metaphor for your life at that moment..... so true.. well put....
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